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CommentsWHY WERE THEY FORBIDDEN TO MARRY?
published by - 7 years 3 months 19 days ago. | | | Sorry, I did not answer your question. No, I assumed it was Eliza's parents. If her father was a John Cook & mother Phoebe [see my newer comments] it may be explained as John Cook was a farmer and miller, maybe that was considered a 'higher' occupation than a 'butcher' - I can't shed anymore light on the reason 'why' but of course there is the 10 or 12 years age gap of Eliza being so much older than William.
Beverly | |
Eliza Cook & William Oaten
published by - 7 years 3 months 20 days ago. | | | I have a copy of the original marriage marriage certificate and no parents names are shown and no place of birth.
There does not seem to be any connections to any other Cook family - there is one, an Amelia Cook, married an Oaten, but too far back, certainly not first cousins.
I am looking at the John & Phoebe Cook [nee JAMES] appearing in the 1841 & 1851 Census, except in 1851 Phoebe Cook was a window and there were four sons plus one daughter named Eliza. Descendants of the family live in Queensland and Victoria, Australia, they have good records of the male members of the family but have nothing regarding the sister Eliza born, 11th Jan. 1818. No death date - nothing, the descendants have no knowledge of what happened to 'their' Eliza.
This Eliza was born at Kingston Seymour, Somerset. Resided in 1851 at Yatton, Somerset "Brik House" is also mentioned.
1851 this Eliza Cook is 33, single, occupation: 'Farmer out of business'. No other reference - this all may be coincidence? [Remembering that in 1854 she was 36, which fits in]
The husband of Phoebe Cook, John Cook died c, 1847/49. | |
Eliza COOK and William OATEN
published by Pat Hase - 7 years 3 months 21 days ago. | | Family Stories often contain a grain of truth so are worth following up as you have done.
Were you told why they were forbidden to marry or by whom?
Neither were under age - could it have been because they were first cousins? In 1854 were fathers' names usually given on the marriage certificate in Australia? I can see that none are included on an online transcription of that marriage - but have you seen the original?
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Currys at Rooksbridge
published by - 7 years 3 months 21 days ago. | | Hi and ta very much for the link. However, they are not related to 'my' Currys. I am amazed at how many Currys there were in the area and there must be links if I go back far enough. But how far is the question.
Cheers anyway
Chris
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Eliza Cook & William Oaten
published by - 7 years 3 months 21 days ago. | | | To Dave - You asked how do I know "they were forbidden to marry?" The answer is, as children several great grandchildren were told the 'family story'. The information I had was gained from my mother, who was Eliza's grand-daughter. This family 'story' all 'checks' out after much research into shipping lists and digitized South Australian Newspaper reports. We just have no idea of which 'Cook' family Eliza belonged to or where she was born. [High possibility that is was Somerset as William Oaten was from Pitminster in Somerset].
Beverly | |
Eliza COOK and William OATEN
published by daveerasmus - 7 years 3 months 21 days ago. | | In the original posting it is stated that Eliza and William were "forbidden" to marry. Can I ask how you know this please?
Dave Erasmus
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