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Hello

My family are also Hurst and from the Weston-super-Mare area.  My main brick wall is Joseph Harse/Hurse/Hearse who was a shoemaker born c1795.  He died of Cholera in Pill, Somerset in 1849.  I am now pretty certain that he was married three times, lived in Badgworth, Nailsea, Pill & Wedmore in Somerset as well as Newport in South Wales.  However, I still have no idea who his parents were or where he was born. 

If you think we are connected, I am happy to share more information with you. 

Debbie Durrant

Edited: Sorry, just realised that Pat posted the message so will email Maureen my details.

I hope that you will be able to attend the Society meeting on the 29th May when you will be able to speak to a member of  The Romany & Traveller Family History Society who may be able to give you some tips.  I think you meant to say that you can't find an entry for your grandfather, Arthur Patrick MORGAN, who was born in about 1881 at Notting Hill according to the censuses - he was the son of Eugene MORGAN who was possibly born, as you state, in the Ramsgate area in about 1835. 

I have found an announcement in the Kentish Gazette for Tuesday 7th May 1867 as follows:

MORGAN - DONOVAN  April 29 at Ramsgate, Mr Eugene Morgan to Miss Mary DONOVAN - but I can find no trace of it on any GRO index. There is a birth of a Louisa Mary MORGAN in Dover in June qrt of 1867

However it does fit with the 1871 census which shows a Louisa MORGAN, aged 4, with Eugene and Maria[sic] MORGAN at a licenced lodging house in Maidstone, Kent.  On the 1881 census Eugene and a Mary Ann are in Exeter in Devon - no sign of Louisa

There is a birth in 1887 and death in 1889 of an Ernest Eugene MORGAN in the Southampton Registration District who just might be another son of  Eugene MORGAN - who does make an appearance in the Hampshire area from time to time.  His birth certificate might identify his parents who just might be the same as Arthur's parents.  Does anyone else have any suggestions for this one?

I am stuck as to why I cannot find an entry of birth for Eugene Morgan born approx 1835, but I cannot find an entry of Marriege either.

Like wise i cannot find any entry of birth for my Grandfather who was born approx 1835, they say Notting Hill, London. I do believe they were travellers, and I have an enquiry with the Romany and Travellers History Society, up to now no luck.

Any one that can help I would be grateful.

Proff-41.

Thank you so much Pat for looking into this for me.  It is very useful but sadly in a negative way as I have found it is not my John R Frost.  My John was the son of John and Hannah Frost.  Another path with a dead end.  Back to the records again!

Marion

elizabeth ann had joseph luke b.oct.1888 in workhouse axbridge union.who joined som.l.i army reserve jan.1908 ,enlisted royal horse artillery april 1908 serving all through ww1.married emily s.a.wear1922 who died 1947.worked as a postman residing in clevedon.married kate peters.wid.in w-s-m in 1954.he died in w-s-m 1959.Elizabeth had another son harry b.1893 in long ashton workhouse died in portishead 1979.married to alice bugler in clevedon 1923,who died 1953.agness married in 1904 in bath.elizabeth resided in clevedon while joseph was in the army.

According to the Commonwealth War Graves Site, Private John R FROST, son of Martin & Fanny FROST of Burton on Trent, Service Number 3613 of the Sherwood Foresters (Notts & Derby Regiment) died 11th Aug 1915 and was buried at the Lijssenthoek Military Cemetery in Belgium - Grave Ref III.D.16A.  There is other information on that site about the Cemetery including a plan and a link to Google maps.

His record of service might have more details - some of the WW1 service records are searchable on Ancestry and Findmypast - but not all have survived so you might not be lucky.

Pat