Research Forum

Not within the stated area of this society but I'm getting very confused with this family and need help!

When my 4 x great grandmother died in 1829 this newspaper entry gave me some information which has intrigued me.  It stated that she was the mother of a Mrs PAYNE.

The 1841 census of the Carriage Inn at Monkton Combe shows a John PAYNE as Publican and Eliza PAYNE as his wife.

I found a marriage of a John PAYNE to an Eliza COLES in 1823 in St Mary Redcliffe in Bristol witnessed by a James COLES and with John entered as a widower.

An earlier marriage at St James Bath was of John PAYNE and a Catherine COLES in 1814 when the witness was a Frances COLES.

So, was Eliza the daughter of my direct ancestor? - or was it Catherine?  - or could it have been both and he married his "Deceased wife's sister"?  

Eliza PAYNE did not die until 1888 and I have just sent for her Will in the hope that she mentions others of the COLES family.  There are 2 COLES girls with her in 1841 and various COLES nieces in later censuses. 

Thanks for reading this far and perhaps taking a look at my problem.

We have been given a Family Bible in order to trace a member of the family it belonged to.  It contains these inscriptions:

and this one:

Albert MAY was born in Yatton in about 1908 and Edith's maiden name was RICKETTS They lived in Langford.  There is a picture of their grave in Churchill with the MIs on our web site.  Millicent BALL was unmarried and a Nurse - she was also born in Yatton but christened in Kingston Seymour.  No MI for her.

If you recognise these people please let us know so that the Bible can be returned to the family. Thank you.

I'm researching my 4th Gt Grandfather Richard Clapp and family. He was born in Chapel Allerton in 1780 and baptised on 25 Dec 1780.  I have come up against a brick wall finding his date of death and that off his wife Fanny Tucker born 1778 in Weare and some of his children.

It seems Richard and Fanny had nine children sadly with early deaths:

Harriet 1802 - 1808

Charlotte 1803 - 1803

Charles 1804 - 1885 (my 3rd Gt Grandfather - I have a reasonable amount of info about him)

John 1806 - 1808

Harriet 1808 - 1808

George 1809 - 1810

Richard 1811 - ?

Fanny 1813 - ?

William 1814 - ?

From the baptism records of his children is seems Richard was a farmer in Stone Allerton.

If anyone can throw more light on this family, it would be greatly appreciated.

Is anyone researching the above person.  He was the illegitimate son of Esther or Hester Lovell and was born in Yatton.  His father was probably named Vowles.

She married Samuel Gregory in 1847 and Samuel took William as his own.

There is a marriage for William to Ellen ? 4th qtr 1871  Bristol.  (3 Ellens listed but I can't work out which one) but nothing further shown for him.  There is a 1905  Prison entry at Wakefield for begging  for a  William Lovell born Yeaton (Yatton perhaps) which could be him although the age is a couple of years out.

Other than that I can find nothing after his marriage.

Can anyone help please.

I have some documents which mention one or more of the above surnames - if you are researching these names in this area please contact me to see if these connect with your family.  

Please would you tell me when Holland street was built, please?

Many thanks,

Derrick Norton